Season 6; Hour Five (10:00AM - 11:00AM)
Air Date: 22 Jan 2007
Reviewer: J
And there we have it, folks! The first filler/expository episode of the season! That’s right, the plot basically didn’t move forward and people fretted for the hour about the nuclear blast, which, really, is probably what would happen in reality. This week’s review is late for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that this week’s hour didn’t do much for me (and don’t worry, I’ll tell you why). The main reason, though, is because I was traveling for business this week and since none of you slackers – err, I mean, readers – stepped up and offered to join me as a staff writer/reviewer for this season, I’m all lone wolf…like Jack.
So let’s get into what I did and didn’t like about this episode.
I enjoyed the reaction from the military at the White House bunker which, sadly, it looks like we’ll be experiencing again this season. As Wayne looked around, I couldn’t help but wonder if he was thinking about the last man to utilize this office – the guy who sanctioned the murder of his brother. I keep hoping Logan will come up and we’ll learn what’s become of him. Did Hal Gardner pardon him? Is he in prison? Is Wayne still angry at him and quietly conducting torture sessions wherein Logan is forced to listen to Martha carp about mysterious phone calls and the ex-Prez’ poor sexual skills?
Anyway, back to the point. The Admiral who is speaking suggests that the U.S. basically bomb the shit out of the middle east, regardless of who’s who. So, basically…genocide. Interesting tactic. What I find very intriguing about this is that I just read the latest book from Nelson DeMille, which is called Wild Fire. It’s about a secret government plan of the same name that dictates that if a nuke is ever detonated in a U.S. city by Islamic terrorists that the President has an automated, no-questions-asked plan in place to essentially carpet bomb the middle east with nukes. The nation of Islam would be wiped out and, likely, so would their terrorism. At least that’s the theory. There are people who believe such a plan exists and I don’t think it’s that far-fetched since if a nuke ever actually did go off in the U.S. the panic would be widespread and devastating and it might take a really drastic response to calm people down a bit.
Among the interesting things in this scene is that the Admiral suggests putting the folks from sandland “back to the stone age,” and when Wayne tries to advocate a modicum of patience and for the U.S. to be certain they are attacking the right country rather than just, you know, everyone, the Admiral interrupts him… and then Tom Lennox interrupts him with a very stern, “The President is talking…don’t interrupt.” The only way it could have been more condescending would be if he added “…douchebag” to the end of the sentence. And that brings us to Tom, whom I can’t quite figure out yet. Which probably means the writing staff of the show haven’t figured him out yet, either. I see strong potential of Tom being like Mike Novick of Season Two; that is, hard to pin down on the good or bad scale and kind of making viewers go back and forth about him. We’ll see.
The bombshell of the episode, of course, is that we find out more about Jack’s immediate family. His father comes up as someone who’s had dealings with a Russian nuke salesman (is that, like, door-to-door?) through his business, Excellent Blow Jobs Technologies… or BXJ technologies, something like that.
Jack calls Sam, his father’s…manservant? Sam looks like he’s very tame and emasculated from years of being a butler of sorts. Jack looks actually warmed to hear Sam’s evidently familiar voice on the phone. Sam, too, seems touched to hear from Jack and you can tell he’s not sure what to say since he, like many people, thought Jack was dead or captured. Or both.
Sam is clearly not in on any shenanigans because he’s worried about Phillip Bauer. Apparently, Jack’s dad left under hazy circumstances and didn’t take his cell phone. Odd, indeed. Way to be stealthy, Phil. Jack, too, finds this shady, especially in light of the fact that CTU turned up his name as someone who has recently dealt with a Russian arms dealer of sorts. His spidey sense continues pinging and he asks for his brother’s cell number. Wait, Jack has a brother? I know! Sam the manservant dutifully gives up “Gray’s” cellie.
And “Gray” is none other than…Graham from last season! Leader of the Bluetooth gang of marauding bandits! Fox’s Website even refers to Graham as the leader of the "Bluetooth power broker conspirators."
Now, I did like this twist but it bothers me that it’s so obviously something that was just thought of this season to clear up who the hell Graham was last season. If the writers knew he was Jack’s brother last year, then kudos to them. But I’m willing to bet they didn’t. But won’t it be interesting when Jack realizes his own brother was instrumental in the conspiracy to assassinate David Palmer. Yikes.
Turns out Graham has a family, too, and his wife is played by Rena Sofer, who I’ve always found insanely hot and alluring. She’s known as being a kind of kiss of death for TV shows since every one she’s been a star of has tanked, but you could say that about a lot of TV actors who you never knew until their famous show caught on. Anyway, enough of my defending Ms. Sofer. I think it’s the jet black hair and piercing blue eyes that do it for me; it’s the same reason I’m never able to take my eyes off of Courteney Cox when I see her. Hoo-yah.
As for other things I liked, I found the bringing up of Jack’s deceased wife interesting. Jack surprises Graham at his palatial estate somewhere in the hills and the two exchange an awkward hug. Or at least Graham tries but Jack just leaves his arms at his sides. So he already knows his brother is up to no good? Or he just assumes it since Graham is always up to no good? Hard to tell and Jack doesn’t let on. When Graham, trying to make conversation, asks when they last saw each other, Jack quickly replies, “When Teri died.” Nice touch of continuity and another of those nods to the regular watchers that I always bloviate about. Graham’s wife and son appear and his son looks like, well, an Aryan Youth Movement kid. He seems pleasant enough and as he enters, Graham introduces him to his “Uncle Jack.” This cracks me up for some reason… Uncle Jack. Jack does greet the kid rather warmly…for a guy who’s been in a Chinese prison for two years anyway. Speaking of which, Graham knew this because he set it up we learn… but he admits he knew it to Jack. Is Graham okay with Jack knowing he has connections that would allow him to know this? Or did the Chinese announce this to a local news crew or something? How does it make sense for Graham to know Jack was in the custody of the Chinese. How the hell did Wayne even know, come to think of it? So many questions, so few answered.
Anyway, Graham’s son eventually breaks the silence by suggested that maybe he and “Uncle Jack” can sit down and talk “later.” Jack snaps out of his daydream of tearing off Graham’s arms and beating him about the head with them enough to reply, “I’d like that.” And I think he really would seeing as how he’s go nobody left in his life and was welcoming death a couple hours ago.
We then see Rena Sofer again, whose name is Marilyn. Marilyn and Jack have a history. How come every woman we’re introduced to early in a season has nailed Jack? Is Jack spending all the non-24 days feeding his voracious appetite for hot asses? Apparently so. Teri, Nina, Kate, Clowwwdia, Audrey, Diane…and now Marilyn. I’m sure I forgot someone. Maybe he boinked Michelle Dessler in there somewhere or Palmer’s press secretary from Season One. She was hot.
The fact that Marilyn fondly remembers Jack’s velvetness is not lost on Graham, which might explain why he was willing to have his own brother killed last season.
Jack and Graham go into Graham’s study where he, again, admits he knew Jack was in China and that he and dad tried to get him out…which is complete bullshit and Jack seems to know it. I also found it interesting how Jack and Graham both referred to Phillip Bauer as “Dad” a couple of times. Not “Our father,” but “Dad.” Makes it seem like they both at least have some level of a relationship or rapport with him. Jack has acknowledged he hasn’t spoken to his father in nine years so either Phil wasn’t at Teri’s funeral or it’s been nine years since Teri died.
On that note, my local paper today had a tidbit. One of the writers spent a day on the 24 set and noted that all the computer screens at CTU have a date of 2012, which would be about right if you do the math on all the in-between time of the seasons.
Anyway, Jack soon tires of Graham’s stalling and slugs him. When Jack went and pulled the wire out of the back of a lamp, I thought he was going to go all Paul Raines on his brother but he just used the wire to tie Graham’s wrists. I wonder if he left that wire plugged in because that would be interesting.
He begins insisting Graham tell him what he knows, to which of course Graham pleads ignorance. Again, I’m still not sure how Jack is so certain Graham has something to tell or if Jack’s just realized he really does miss torturing people so he’s getting back into it. Nevertheless, he threatens to hurt Graham while choking him to tightly Graham can hardly breathe. I loved Graham’s response: “Actually, you’re hurting me now.” Jack of course gives the rather chilling response, “Trust me – I’m not.”
We don’t get to learn what Graham knows this hour but we do see Jack starting to suffocate him with a plastic bag. An interesting tactic, or Jacktic if you will.
A few last comments on the revelation of Jack’s fraternal relative… as I said earlier, I enjoyed the twist but that’s because I’ve become really good at suspending my disbelief for this show. The truth is, it’s way too obvious that the writers had no intention of making Graham Jack’s brother and it’s something they thought up just recently. I’m sure it’ll lead to Jack having to kill, torture or imprison his own family thus making him even darker but still… seems dangerously close to a cheap tactic to shock us.
The rest of what happened in this hour was somewhat expository as well and is leading us to, hopefully, more significant happenings. At the detention facility, Walid is being used by the FBI to infiltrate the baddies who are being detained. They make a big show of roughing him up and putting a wire on him but the whole show of pushing him around is a little ridiculous. For one thing, if these terrorist accomplices don’t know this is a set up, then they’re really frickin’ dumb. At the end of the hour, they’ve shown interest and Walid has dropped the right name (Abu Fayed) to get them interested in how he knows/supports Fayed…BUT, couldn’t this all be a ruse by the bad guys who always seem a step ahead of the government on this show? And why is the FBI handling this covert gathering of intel that could really help the CTU team across the country? Shouldn’t CTU be in on this operation?
Sandra Palmer is there making all sorts of annoyed noises at the FBI agents, including the blonde one who arrested her and Walid earlier. And frankly, I’m bored with her and her complaints. Walid is trying to be helpful, Sandra, and he’s doing it of his own volition. So lay off.
We also learn shortly after the nuke blast that CTU is basically out of field agents. Milo lets us all know that besides the team that was engaging Numair and the other hostiles in Valencia, all their other Tac Teams were “too close” and were similarly incinerated by the nuclear blast. So what the hell is going to happen to CTU now? Do they pull in field agents from San Diego, Vegas or San Fran? Or will Bill Buchanan go out into the field with a weapon. I’d love to see that. I suspect it would be the cleanest and shiniest gun anyone’s ever seen. And probably with a Gucci holster.
Speaking of exposition, we learn in the opening minutes that a conservative estimate of the death toll is currently around 12,000. Which, damn. That certainly puts any previous terrorist killings to shame. And probably fairly accurate given where the bomb was detonated.
Another random thing I enjoyed was Tom Lennox crapping all over the team trying to work on a speech for the President to give to the American people. They’d referred to the nuking as “the latest incident,” to which Tom scoffs hilariously and says, “This was a nuclear BOMB. Can we call it what it is?” Good stuff.
Otherwise, this hour didn’t do a whole lot for me. We learned some things we’ll clearly need to know later on but not a whole lot was done. Well, Assad was escorted out of CTU and told he was wanted in Washington, D.C. And I guess he’s going by car or train since all air travel has been grounded.
Reviewer: J
And there we have it, folks! The first filler/expository episode of the season! That’s right, the plot basically didn’t move forward and people fretted for the hour about the nuclear blast, which, really, is probably what would happen in reality. This week’s review is late for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that this week’s hour didn’t do much for me (and don’t worry, I’ll tell you why). The main reason, though, is because I was traveling for business this week and since none of you slackers – err, I mean, readers – stepped up and offered to join me as a staff writer/reviewer for this season, I’m all lone wolf…like Jack.
So let’s get into what I did and didn’t like about this episode.
I enjoyed the reaction from the military at the White House bunker which, sadly, it looks like we’ll be experiencing again this season. As Wayne looked around, I couldn’t help but wonder if he was thinking about the last man to utilize this office – the guy who sanctioned the murder of his brother. I keep hoping Logan will come up and we’ll learn what’s become of him. Did Hal Gardner pardon him? Is he in prison? Is Wayne still angry at him and quietly conducting torture sessions wherein Logan is forced to listen to Martha carp about mysterious phone calls and the ex-Prez’ poor sexual skills?
Anyway, back to the point. The Admiral who is speaking suggests that the U.S. basically bomb the shit out of the middle east, regardless of who’s who. So, basically…genocide. Interesting tactic. What I find very intriguing about this is that I just read the latest book from Nelson DeMille, which is called Wild Fire. It’s about a secret government plan of the same name that dictates that if a nuke is ever detonated in a U.S. city by Islamic terrorists that the President has an automated, no-questions-asked plan in place to essentially carpet bomb the middle east with nukes. The nation of Islam would be wiped out and, likely, so would their terrorism. At least that’s the theory. There are people who believe such a plan exists and I don’t think it’s that far-fetched since if a nuke ever actually did go off in the U.S. the panic would be widespread and devastating and it might take a really drastic response to calm people down a bit.
Among the interesting things in this scene is that the Admiral suggests putting the folks from sandland “back to the stone age,” and when Wayne tries to advocate a modicum of patience and for the U.S. to be certain they are attacking the right country rather than just, you know, everyone, the Admiral interrupts him… and then Tom Lennox interrupts him with a very stern, “The President is talking…don’t interrupt.” The only way it could have been more condescending would be if he added “…douchebag” to the end of the sentence. And that brings us to Tom, whom I can’t quite figure out yet. Which probably means the writing staff of the show haven’t figured him out yet, either. I see strong potential of Tom being like Mike Novick of Season Two; that is, hard to pin down on the good or bad scale and kind of making viewers go back and forth about him. We’ll see.
The bombshell of the episode, of course, is that we find out more about Jack’s immediate family. His father comes up as someone who’s had dealings with a Russian nuke salesman (is that, like, door-to-door?) through his business, Excellent Blow Jobs Technologies… or BXJ technologies, something like that.
Jack calls Sam, his father’s…manservant? Sam looks like he’s very tame and emasculated from years of being a butler of sorts. Jack looks actually warmed to hear Sam’s evidently familiar voice on the phone. Sam, too, seems touched to hear from Jack and you can tell he’s not sure what to say since he, like many people, thought Jack was dead or captured. Or both.
Sam is clearly not in on any shenanigans because he’s worried about Phillip Bauer. Apparently, Jack’s dad left under hazy circumstances and didn’t take his cell phone. Odd, indeed. Way to be stealthy, Phil. Jack, too, finds this shady, especially in light of the fact that CTU turned up his name as someone who has recently dealt with a Russian arms dealer of sorts. His spidey sense continues pinging and he asks for his brother’s cell number. Wait, Jack has a brother? I know! Sam the manservant dutifully gives up “Gray’s” cellie.
And “Gray” is none other than…Graham from last season! Leader of the Bluetooth gang of marauding bandits! Fox’s Website even refers to Graham as the leader of the "Bluetooth power broker conspirators."
Now, I did like this twist but it bothers me that it’s so obviously something that was just thought of this season to clear up who the hell Graham was last season. If the writers knew he was Jack’s brother last year, then kudos to them. But I’m willing to bet they didn’t. But won’t it be interesting when Jack realizes his own brother was instrumental in the conspiracy to assassinate David Palmer. Yikes.
Turns out Graham has a family, too, and his wife is played by Rena Sofer, who I’ve always found insanely hot and alluring. She’s known as being a kind of kiss of death for TV shows since every one she’s been a star of has tanked, but you could say that about a lot of TV actors who you never knew until their famous show caught on. Anyway, enough of my defending Ms. Sofer. I think it’s the jet black hair and piercing blue eyes that do it for me; it’s the same reason I’m never able to take my eyes off of Courteney Cox when I see her. Hoo-yah.
As for other things I liked, I found the bringing up of Jack’s deceased wife interesting. Jack surprises Graham at his palatial estate somewhere in the hills and the two exchange an awkward hug. Or at least Graham tries but Jack just leaves his arms at his sides. So he already knows his brother is up to no good? Or he just assumes it since Graham is always up to no good? Hard to tell and Jack doesn’t let on. When Graham, trying to make conversation, asks when they last saw each other, Jack quickly replies, “When Teri died.” Nice touch of continuity and another of those nods to the regular watchers that I always bloviate about. Graham’s wife and son appear and his son looks like, well, an Aryan Youth Movement kid. He seems pleasant enough and as he enters, Graham introduces him to his “Uncle Jack.” This cracks me up for some reason… Uncle Jack. Jack does greet the kid rather warmly…for a guy who’s been in a Chinese prison for two years anyway. Speaking of which, Graham knew this because he set it up we learn… but he admits he knew it to Jack. Is Graham okay with Jack knowing he has connections that would allow him to know this? Or did the Chinese announce this to a local news crew or something? How does it make sense for Graham to know Jack was in the custody of the Chinese. How the hell did Wayne even know, come to think of it? So many questions, so few answered.
Anyway, Graham’s son eventually breaks the silence by suggested that maybe he and “Uncle Jack” can sit down and talk “later.” Jack snaps out of his daydream of tearing off Graham’s arms and beating him about the head with them enough to reply, “I’d like that.” And I think he really would seeing as how he’s go nobody left in his life and was welcoming death a couple hours ago.
We then see Rena Sofer again, whose name is Marilyn. Marilyn and Jack have a history. How come every woman we’re introduced to early in a season has nailed Jack? Is Jack spending all the non-24 days feeding his voracious appetite for hot asses? Apparently so. Teri, Nina, Kate, Clowwwdia, Audrey, Diane…and now Marilyn. I’m sure I forgot someone. Maybe he boinked Michelle Dessler in there somewhere or Palmer’s press secretary from Season One. She was hot.
The fact that Marilyn fondly remembers Jack’s velvetness is not lost on Graham, which might explain why he was willing to have his own brother killed last season.
Jack and Graham go into Graham’s study where he, again, admits he knew Jack was in China and that he and dad tried to get him out…which is complete bullshit and Jack seems to know it. I also found it interesting how Jack and Graham both referred to Phillip Bauer as “Dad” a couple of times. Not “Our father,” but “Dad.” Makes it seem like they both at least have some level of a relationship or rapport with him. Jack has acknowledged he hasn’t spoken to his father in nine years so either Phil wasn’t at Teri’s funeral or it’s been nine years since Teri died.
On that note, my local paper today had a tidbit. One of the writers spent a day on the 24 set and noted that all the computer screens at CTU have a date of 2012, which would be about right if you do the math on all the in-between time of the seasons.
Anyway, Jack soon tires of Graham’s stalling and slugs him. When Jack went and pulled the wire out of the back of a lamp, I thought he was going to go all Paul Raines on his brother but he just used the wire to tie Graham’s wrists. I wonder if he left that wire plugged in because that would be interesting.
He begins insisting Graham tell him what he knows, to which of course Graham pleads ignorance. Again, I’m still not sure how Jack is so certain Graham has something to tell or if Jack’s just realized he really does miss torturing people so he’s getting back into it. Nevertheless, he threatens to hurt Graham while choking him to tightly Graham can hardly breathe. I loved Graham’s response: “Actually, you’re hurting me now.” Jack of course gives the rather chilling response, “Trust me – I’m not.”
We don’t get to learn what Graham knows this hour but we do see Jack starting to suffocate him with a plastic bag. An interesting tactic, or Jacktic if you will.
A few last comments on the revelation of Jack’s fraternal relative… as I said earlier, I enjoyed the twist but that’s because I’ve become really good at suspending my disbelief for this show. The truth is, it’s way too obvious that the writers had no intention of making Graham Jack’s brother and it’s something they thought up just recently. I’m sure it’ll lead to Jack having to kill, torture or imprison his own family thus making him even darker but still… seems dangerously close to a cheap tactic to shock us.
The rest of what happened in this hour was somewhat expository as well and is leading us to, hopefully, more significant happenings. At the detention facility, Walid is being used by the FBI to infiltrate the baddies who are being detained. They make a big show of roughing him up and putting a wire on him but the whole show of pushing him around is a little ridiculous. For one thing, if these terrorist accomplices don’t know this is a set up, then they’re really frickin’ dumb. At the end of the hour, they’ve shown interest and Walid has dropped the right name (Abu Fayed) to get them interested in how he knows/supports Fayed…BUT, couldn’t this all be a ruse by the bad guys who always seem a step ahead of the government on this show? And why is the FBI handling this covert gathering of intel that could really help the CTU team across the country? Shouldn’t CTU be in on this operation?
Sandra Palmer is there making all sorts of annoyed noises at the FBI agents, including the blonde one who arrested her and Walid earlier. And frankly, I’m bored with her and her complaints. Walid is trying to be helpful, Sandra, and he’s doing it of his own volition. So lay off.
We also learn shortly after the nuke blast that CTU is basically out of field agents. Milo lets us all know that besides the team that was engaging Numair and the other hostiles in Valencia, all their other Tac Teams were “too close” and were similarly incinerated by the nuclear blast. So what the hell is going to happen to CTU now? Do they pull in field agents from San Diego, Vegas or San Fran? Or will Bill Buchanan go out into the field with a weapon. I’d love to see that. I suspect it would be the cleanest and shiniest gun anyone’s ever seen. And probably with a Gucci holster.
Speaking of exposition, we learn in the opening minutes that a conservative estimate of the death toll is currently around 12,000. Which, damn. That certainly puts any previous terrorist killings to shame. And probably fairly accurate given where the bomb was detonated.
Another random thing I enjoyed was Tom Lennox crapping all over the team trying to work on a speech for the President to give to the American people. They’d referred to the nuking as “the latest incident,” to which Tom scoffs hilariously and says, “This was a nuclear BOMB. Can we call it what it is?” Good stuff.
Otherwise, this hour didn’t do a whole lot for me. We learned some things we’ll clearly need to know later on but not a whole lot was done. Well, Assad was escorted out of CTU and told he was wanted in Washington, D.C. And I guess he’s going by car or train since all air travel has been grounded.
Labels: Season Six
posted by J Money at 6:33:00 PM
10 Comments:
Great Review J . . . and I'll admit that I am a devoted-reader and slacker. Perhaps if my workload lightens up a bit, but I doubt it this season.
Anyways, I'll also admit that I wasn't as hard on the hour as you were. Basically the whole aftermath of the bomb and the revelation of Graham threw my circuts in such overdrive that it took me a couple of days to realize that the episode was really a slow one.
I too thought he was going to pull a "Paul Raines" on Graham, to the point that as he ripped the cord, I told one of my 24 initiates, "Oh my GOD, I LOVE this trick!" When he didn't do as I thought and basically tied him up, I knew I must have looked pretty stupid to my friend, but he was enjoying the hour too, so . . . whatever.
Anwyas, I have a good feeling that Jack learned that bag-trick in China, wouldn't you agree.
And as for 2012 . . . sounds about right. I've calculated Day VI to take place in 2011, but that's because I think Day I takes place in 2002.
(If Palmer's election was 2002, then his re-election would be 2006. But he bowed out and that four year term was spent by Keeler, Logan, and Gardner. The next election was four years after 2006, so that'd be 2010. Wayne wins, gets inaugerated in January 2011, and enjoys a honeymoon period of a week before serial suicide bombings take place all over the US of A.)
Yes, I spend too much time on 24.
More than one person I spoke with about this episode speculated that Graham's son is really Jack's son. This would seem to make sense considering Graham’s wife has black hair, and what hair Graham has left is black, while the son looks like “an Aryan Youth Movement kid." How weird for Kim to have a cousin become a half-brother.
Sandra Palmer really is starting to annoy me as well.
And according to imdb.com we should be getting to see Agent Pierce (Glenn Morshower) once again. Of course one of the episodes they listed was hour five, but they have been wrong about the specific episode in the past, but right about an actor returning.
As for Assad traveling to DC, I am sure they will be willing to make an exception for a government jet. It could be like Chase taking a plane from CTU Washington, DC to LA in 24: The Game. Let's just hope we don't see Assad in one of the boxes ordering a Pepsi with pretzels or staring out the window looking at clouds.
and how could I forget to mention that our boy Stephen Saunders (Paul Blackthorne) has a new show on SciFi Channel called The Dresden Files.
And I agree with Phoenician. The Graham revelation through me for a loop, just as getting to watch Graham bring the old Jack back did.
And I am also a devoted-reader and slacker. Perhaps if I had Tivo, and a lot of free time I might. I'll let you know if anything happens that frees up a lot of time.
The revelation of the bluetooth mastermind conspirator being Jack's father has totally broken my disbelief in the show: we have seen many twists in 24,but this time it's not a surprise rather than just a ridicule thing. Don't go this way,writers: you know when to stop. Was it in S2 or S3 that the nervous gay CTU employee got written out after some far less than stellar appearances? You can do it again,if you want.
"The nervous gay CTU employee?" You mean Adam Kauffman of Day III??
Personally, I liked him, AND he merited enough of a role to appear in 24: The Game.
And besides, the Bluetooth Conspirator "Graem Bauer" is Jack's BROTHER, not Father, allowing for the opportunity to have a "Cane/Able or Michael/Fredo some brother/some other brother" kind of moment. Some seriously personally wicked stuff.
Once you cross the line of this kind of unrequired absurdities it can only get worse. There's no need for Jack's brother to be the bluetooth guy: a guy who's never been seen before would have been more credible,this is just going to extra mile for the sake of it. But we're not talking about pissing off fans by killing a major character,it's all just so odd and trasparently set up and artificial that I laugh at them for even trying. This is gonna be 24's black sheep from now on,far worse than Kim's puma.
I posted a comment on 24fan.blogspot.com to a post about the date, but it hasn't been approved yet so I thought I would post generally what I wrote here:
Basically the last two President Primaries in California have taken place in early March 2000 and 2004.
Based on the time between seasons, 9 years and 2 months have passed in the show. Which means that the show is taking place in either May 2009 or May 2013. And early May could still be considered 3 months since Palmer took office on January 20th..
Sounds about right, except for the fact that even if you counted the three months as weeks, May is still more than 12 weeks.
But then again, its still a big debate on when Day I took place, and I personally still beleive that 24 takes place in an alternative timeline where Presidential elections are two years off than they are in the real world (thus I think David Palmer ran in 2002 and again in 2006, and Wayne ran in 2010 -- instead of 2000, 2004, or even 2008.)
I think Palmer only ran once... and then pulled out the second time, allowing Keeler the easy win.
Regardless, the computers are set to 2012.
That's what I meant, J. :)
Palmer ran twice (and IMO, in 2002 & 2006), but pulled out in the second election.
He definitely ran for most of the election, far enough in the election to know who his opponent would be (John Keeler, as opposed to a bunch of Republican Candidates trying to win the primary.)
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